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Fava L-Dopa Tincture

Well, I have good news for all of you…..I finished the experiment of using the fava bean seeds and sprouting them for three whole days..then  steaming them  for 6 minutes, mashing them and adding brandy to cover them in a jar….shaking it for a month each day.  Then, straining off the brandy into a clean jar and letting it set for a day to have the sediment fall to the bottom,…carefully taking the clear liquid into another clean container from which it is put into dropper bottles.

It works for me also!!!!   This means that if you can obtain organic, sproutable fava beans (that can be used for cooking or planting (UNTREATED!!)  you can make this fava l-dopa tincture.  You do NOT have to grow a garden..which is impossible for most people because of their location and physical condition.

This to me is a tremendous find because I may not always be able to do the amount of work I do now, and it was a concern to me that I would not always be able to make my own l-dopa because of this. It doesn’t exist on the market….you have to make it yourself !  This new tincture has not been tested yet for it’s l-dopa content  (which was done for the fava tops tincture .@..2 drops approx = 1mg l-dopa).

Hopefully I will find someone soon who can test it……BUT – I actually think it works better than the tincture made from fava tops…which is much harder to do with all the labor and fighting aphids for tops…the aphids like them best, too!!!   As soon as it is tested I will report back.  I don’t know why it is so hard to find people willing to test things when PD is so widespread…they want grant money for a few minutes of time spent doing a simple test. Somehow, that is hard for me to grasp.

Please to have a G6pd test done if you have thoughts of trying fava beans as a source of l-dopa to make sure you don’t have the enzyme deficiency which could make them quite harmful to you. Also. if you are on MAOI drugs or other PD meds that may need to be cut out or adjusted with adding fava…please talk to your doctor…don’t experiment on your own.     I can experiment on myself because I am on no PD drugs…the only prescription med I take is Armour Thyroid (a natural thyroid supplement).

So, for now….Keep Exercising!!   Eat Lots of good organic fruits & vegies  …Check out the book   Natural Therapies for Parkinsons by Laurie Mischley (Hope that is spelled right)  It is a wonderfully informative book on what you can do to improve your health)

God Bless You

Love,

Sandra

Instructions for Making the Fava Tincture

I have received several  inquiries from readers interested in having instructions for making the fava bean tincture. I wrote Aunt Bean and here is the full and complete step by step guide.

Robert Rodgers, Ph.D.
Road to Recovery from Parkinsons Disease
www.parkinsonsdisease.me

The farm is doing well.  We finally had rain…what a blessing …it had been a dry start to the summer.  Things have really perked up after three good rains.  We are having our support group picnic the third Saturday of July.  Hopefully the garden will be producing well by then.

Just had a new grand baby and made a trip to Indiana.  What a wonderful , perfect child God has blessed us with.  Something else to keep me going in the fight against PD.

As far as the instructions for making the fava tincture…here you go.

You have to grow the plants  to have the material to work with (or know someone who can grow them for you).  This is the only difficult part.

Once you have the plants, you collect the “tops” (the small ball of immature , unopened flowers and leaves that grow at the top of the stem. )  The plant will later make these unopened balls at the base and on the stems as the plant matures..these also can be used.

Once you collect the “balls” , dry them in a dehydrator til completely dry. 

Place them then into a clean jar with a lid ( glass peanut butter jars work fine). Pour brandy over the tops until they are covered completely. Put the lid on and place it in a dark cupboard.  Shake the tincture one to three times a day for a month.

Now the tincture is ready to be strained.  I use a stainless steel tea strainer and press the liquid out of the leaves.  Let the tincture stand at least a day in a dark cupboard, and then decant off (this means to pour very slowly, leaving the sediment in the bottom of the jar). Now you are ready to pour the tincture into small dropper bottles . 

The tincture tested out at 2 drops = 1 mg l-dopa. (Of course this may vary with the type of soil the favas are grown on/ weather/etc. the amount of brandy used…should just cover the tops in the jar). Also the fava plants should be grown organically so it is safe for food.

If you are going to use fava beans for supplementing l-dopa for PD….be sure to have aG6pd blood test done to make sure you are not deficient in a specific enzyme that is necessary to metabolize fava.  There is a genetic disorder called favaism that you should research before using any product of the fava plant or bean.  If you have inherited this disorder…favas can be fatal to you.    Favas can also react with certain PD Meds and you must consult with your doctor and do your research before you use yourself as a guinea pig like I did. 

I took a big chance taking it the first time myself. And if you try using favas for supplementation, you are taking a risk too…..everyone’s PD is different, different causes, different symptoms, different reaction to meds, different progression.  What helps one person will not help another.   God is good and blessed me with just the thing that I needed to take care of my symptoms.. If you try the tincture…it is at your own risk, like me.

I started out taking 2 drops in the morning / 2 drops in the afternoon / 2 drops at bedtime. My symptoms have progressed, but the tincture still makes them disappear.  I now take about 6 to 8 drops of tincture, 4 to 6 times a day. Basically about 1 1/2 teas tincture daily. I also make fermented dried papaya and take it every morning….it is amazing too.

Well, that is all I have time to write now.  I hope this helps someone. 

God Bless You

Aunt Bean

A New Treatment for Constipation

Just a quick note to let you know that I have come across something else that is helping two of my difficulties: Organic Blackstrap Molasses. I was researching to see if it is healthy or not, because it is a byproduct of sugar cane. The information said it was good for acid reflux and constipation.

Constipation has been a problem since my diving accident in 7th grade (when my foot drag first appeared). I don’t have acid reflux (have very rarely)  But, have a problem with the “door” to the stomach not opening to receive food or liquids sometimes.

I thought, that’s the same area at least needing help … can’t hurt to try it. Well, I have taken a teaspoon every day for a week or so and my bowels are moving much better and the digestive system is cooperating also.

Fermented papaya still a major blessing.  Also still eating stewed rhubard and strawberries.

Favas in the 50′ covered raised bed are starting to flower. I planted 3 raised beds with favas on Monday in a cold rain (about 100 sprouting seeds).  So, this year’s garden is on it’s way.   I should have a lot more planted by now, but the weather is not cooperating.

God is good, we still have tincture from last year to go on.

I have just enjoyed “Howard’s blog on Chi Gong….interesting enough….I do alot of the same stretches with no involvement in yoga, etc.   The stretches & torquing my muscles (like full body isometrics…using my muscles against each other) have been part of my life since about 2003.  Perhaps that is a major part of my not succumbing to my symptoms of PD/ along with a mostly vegetarian diet. I eat eggs, a small amount of deer meat occasionally/ and fish plus dance /do hard work in the garden/ play music and sing.

God is so good.

Blessings from Aunt Bean
(Sandra)

Fava Bean Tincture

Well, the wind blew my row cover off my 50 foot raised bed of favas this week.   I was able to crawl down the center of the 2 rows and weed. The weeds were growing really good!  Managed to get the row cover back over the hoops and mend the hole it received twisting around a stake close by.  The favas will definitely make it thru the winter here with protection!

We still have not found anyone who will move the 80 foot greenhouse for us from the neighbors yard at the end of our driveway,   So close and yet so far away.

In the meantime…still conducting an experiment of growing 2 favas in a window in our kitchen. This is to tell me if those out there who cannot have a garden could grow them indoors for making tincture or not.. So far, they are growing well, not quite as green as those outdoors…mainly from receiving only about 6 hours of daylight and not full sun.  Spring is coming…keep your chin up!

People have been asking me about how much tincture I take a day.  Finally measured yesterday.  Approximately  1 1/2 teaspoons…..unless under unusual stress or exersion…then maybe 2 teaspoons over the course of the day total. ( 2 drops  equals about 1 mg l-dopa). I didn’t measure how many drops in 1/4 teas, which is a dose for me…….

God Bless.    Aunt Bean   (Sandra)

Why Not Grow Your Own Fava Beans?

Well, dad is doing ok, but taking it easy the last few days. This morning I finished “banking or hilling” the rows of fava beans and found some of them are starting to make tops already, the part I use for medicine. It is always exciting to start seeing the tops form.

I hope more people will start growing their own favas to replace l-dopa.  Especiallly people who have not yet started on pharmaceuticals.  Always get a G6pd blood test first and make sure you are not taking MAOI meds.

The farm is looking good.  The chickens are happy. LIFE IS GOOD.

Blessings from Aunt Bean

Seed Planting, Tinctures, Blood Tests and Irrigation

Things at the farm are going well. I’ve just planted about 425 fava seeds and have 25 lb on order at a health food store. We finally received a little rain the last couple of days and I hope it was soon enough to save the fava seeds that were sprouted and planted Monday. The ground was so dry and they were calling for rain on Monday and Tuesday, but we never got any of it ( though it rained hard just 5 miles away).  I carried jugs out and tried to hit the rows, but it is hard when no plants are up yet.

We just called a couple of well drilling companies to see how much it would be to dig a well for irrigation purposes. They both estimated $6,000 in our area. which, right now, is not within my budget.  So, I will continue to catch rain water from the barn roof in rain barrels and carry to individul plants.   EXERCIZE is good for PD !  Maybe next year will be easier.

**I have been on the fava tincture for 9 full months now  and have decided to get a CBC blood draw and check my blood levels to compare it to what I was a few years ago.  I am curious to see if the tincture has changed anything. I  feel well….but am curious.  My daughter is a nurse practitioner and I will be able to discuss results with her over the phone….as I still have no interest in giving money to a doctor for what I can figure out on my own.

I believe we are responsible for our own well-being …not a doctor. We have a place called “Any Blood Test Now” where you can go and request a blood draw for any condition without a doctor’s order / and they send the results to you (and also your doctor if requested).   Pretty convenient, huh?

Oh, we have a grape arbor with grapes starting to ripen and I am trying to find out if I can make my own grapeseed extract or anything else medicinal from the grapes…(new project).  Also, there are hundreds of chicory plants blooming on the property and I am going to try making flower essence and tincture from them….Lots to do…no boredom on the farm.

Now one of my friends is calling me …..

Blessings to you………..

Aunt Bean  (Sandra)

P.S. But….still no name for the farm,  any ideas?

Update from the Fava Bean Farm

Dad has plowed the unplanted portion of the garden area  & disked it.  It is ready for planting more favas for fall. I received 4 lbs of Windsor Favas from Fedco Seed Company this week (the last of their stock) and was blessed to find out at the local health food store that they could order me a 25 lb bag of organic favas…and will call me to let me know if they are still available.  God is good.

I have big hopes that the fall crop will receive more rain than the spring crop had.   We are still in drought conditions and I have only watered a plant if it wilted over (the kushaw pumpkins and melons had to be watered 3 times now) and I have watered tiny plants and newly planted seeds, which is a lot of walking with heavy buckets.

The tincture is still all I need for support…in October my “non-clinical trial” will have gone on for a year. Oh, the mucuna beans I planted on the back side of the barn are now about 11 feet tall! Incredible!!

Blessings to you all…..

Aunt Bean

Fava Beans and Parkinson’s – We are Harvesting!

Picked my first beans of the season yesterday and today.  Some were as big as my thumb already and I didn’t know there were any out there.

I have about a quart and a half steamed and in the freezer and the big ones ready to juice. Will let you know how the raw juice experiment goes.

My friend is improved already in her movement and mood since yesterday…she has been with out fresh beans for several months and it has been hard on her. I am depending on the tincture still, but the fresh beans are quite a treat for me.

PD Support Group picnic is June 15 at the farm, so all my energy is going into finishing the raised beds/ planting/ making the garden paths wheelchair and couple walking friendly for all.   God Bless.    Sandra


Latest News from the TN Fava Patch

This week we  put our house in the city up for sale/ closed on a little mini-farm in the country and recieved alot of Fava Bean Seeds in the mail for planting in a few weeks.   The place has so many possiblities. The master bedroom is huge with an attached private bath, and I talked dad into fixing that room up for guests and we will use the two smaller bedrooms. There is also a built on handicap equipped apartment with it’s own kitchen/living room/ bath & laundry room. We also purchased the tractor &  attachments.  Now we just have to get our city home sold…so we can get out there and concentrate on the beans.   * I figured out how I can supply tincture to alot of people!!   I can dry the fava plant part that I used and mail it to people with directions on how to complete the tincture themselves!  I think it is such a simple process that anyone can do it.  You would still have to have a blood test for G6pd (favism enzyme deficiency) so you can know that you can safely use the tincture you make……..What do you all think?????

Growing and Harvesting Fava Beans

what follows is a translation of the my interview with Sandra Bowman on February 4, 2010 which includes the questions I asked and her answers:

Robert Rodgers, Ph.D.
Parkinsons Recovery
www.parkinsonsrecovery.com

1. How did you come to try fava beans as therapy for PD?

I started searching books for possible natural treatments for PD in January 1009. Came across a book “Green Pharmacy” by James A .Duke PhD.  He spoke of favas for PD & that started the ball rolling…lots of research and a search for seeds to plant. I am an organic gardener and am fascinated with herbs and natural medicine..so this was a new challenge for me.

2. Why are fava beans supposed to give relief from PD symptoms?

The whole aerial plant contains l-dopa. Especially, the immature green pods.  Since it is a natural form of l-dopa, the body recognizes & utilizes it very efficiently. Part of this is because it is a whole food, not a synthetic, man made form…..just God -given.

3. How have fava beans helped you and your friend?

My friend takes a small amount of sinemet and a couple of beans at medication times.  The favas are supplying most of her l-dopa. This seems to be giving her longer “on” times . Taking less sinemet seems to mean less withdrawal time from sinemet. She tries to take all of her sinemet before lunch time and then supplement in the afternoon with bean products dries bean chips/ bean cookies/tincture, etc… Personally, I am not on any pharmaceuticals for PD,  and just taking a few drops of tincture when I feel PD symptoms coming on, is enough to let me get through the day symptom free.

4. Can everyone use fava beans?

No.  Some people have  a genetic condition called favism. People with favism have an deficiency that makes it very dangerous to use favas…consumption can be fatal.  There is a simple blood test called a G6PD which detects if you have this condition and should not use fava beans. The test cost me $65. and was well worth it.

5. How do you prepare fava beans?

I have found that picking the immature pods at about 2 1/2 inches is the best for us. They have a great buttery taste and no strings.  We steam them for about 6 minutes,/ then freeze them on cookie sheets for about 15 minutes/then place them in  freezer bags and return them to the freezer. My friend enjoys  them the right from the freezer…2-4 pods with her sinemet dose .. Bean chips & cookies were made by putting large favas (past the stage of eating the pod) through a Champion Juicer, which takes out all the indigestible fiber, etc. ..and using that juice to make tasty l-dopa treats. We keep our “treats” frozen and use them to ward off symptoms,  They are great also for car trips, just to carry along if needed.  The possibilities are endless.

6. Are fava beans hard to grow?

They were a pleasure to me, but some people would consider them difficult. Some of the plants become tall, depending on the variety of fava and on the composition of the soil. Ours had to be staked to prevent them from falling over when they reach about 4 foot. (Falling over can break the plant/ or they sometimes start getting discolored leaves and beans because of close contact to the ground..neither of which I wanted). So, I hammered stakes in each row with about 6 plants in between, and did what is called a Florida weave to secure them in upright position.

I learned to do this when growing a field of tomatoes one year. When  done properly, a whole field can be tied  in a very short time. A couple of weeks later. A second level of string is used to envelope the plants as they grow taller. The biggest time consumer is hammering stakes if you grow a large crop. The plants are very hardy and ours survived temperatures down to 26 degrees here in Tennessee. When it dropped lower, they were hit hard……though it looks like they may come back from the roots possibly if the weather ever warms up again.  This is the coldest winter I have seen here. Favas like cool weather. They are actually in the pea family/ and not a bean. They do not tolerate very hot weather. I plan to plant my spring crop, Lord willing, in the end of February or first of March.  Once you look at the beautiful, and prolific  flowers on the plants, you will see why the bees and other insects migrate to your favas…they are amazing.  I found that soaking the seeds for about 2 days, until they bgin to sprout, is best and then setting them directly out into the soil about 10 inches apart and 1 1/2 to 2 inches deep. Once they have developed their first 2 leaves, the root is close to a foot long.  They are a good soil builder and bring alot of nutrients up to the surface from deep in the ground. They are used as “cover crops” in some places plowed under to fertilize the soil, and then the area is replanted.

7.  Where can a person get fava beans if they cannot grow their own?

We have not yet located a source for young/ green/ immature pods. I have come across dried beans in several markets, and even full sized bean pods in Earth Fare…but neither of these will give the l-dopa we need for PD. You may find a local farmer who would be willing to raise a crop for you. You would have to specify the length you want the beans / or go pick them yourself & come home & process them immediately… so as not to loose the medicinal qualities of the beans. It is best to grow/ harvest & process your own and this will be a priority for me ss long as I am able. The beans (seeds)  themselves , whether green or dry,  contain very little levadopa….it is the leaves, stems, and the pods surrounding  the bean seeds that contain the levadopa.

8.Can fava beans be used in conjunction with other medications??

They do not appear to conflict with sinemet, but there is a fine balance between not enough l-dopa and too much.  If my friend eats too many beans with her sinemet dose..she appears to be drunk and tends to fall.

It would be great if each person’s body metabolism were the same and a clear dose could be established, but it doesn’t work that way. It has been our experience that most doctors are not familiar with fava beans and other natural remedies, and will likely advise sinemet or other PD meds.    I have chosen to stay away from synthetic l-dopa & stick with what I know and consider natural, so that my body can  stay at it’s optimal health.

9.. Do doctors prescribe fava beans??

In Europe, people have used favas for PD therapy for a long time. Favas are also a very popular food in Europe.

In the United States, most people have never heard of favas. However, there is a product called Balance D that is available in the US ..a supplement containing fava, by Neuroscience. It was recommended to my friend by her doctor.

10. You mentioned a fava tincture..can you tell us about that?

I wanted something that would capture the essence and l-dopa of the plant, and preserve it. Mainly, because there is the problem of having to grow a year’s supply of pods and freeze them. There is always a possibility of a power outage and a years supply would be lost. Since I have been making Echinacea tincture for years from my garden I wondered,

Could the same could be done with the fava plant?

A specific part of the plant captured my attention, so I went through-out the garden harvesting these little “tops”…a little hidden , protected part of the plant. They were placed in a dehydrator to dry and then into a jar with brandy. This was shaken for a month, several times a day. Then, it was strained.  It looked good, and I played the part of a white experimental rat and took several drops to see what would happen. I didn’t see any change right away, but later, went outside and was coming up the steps and noticed that I didn’t halt on my right hip/leg like I always did. I went back down & climbed up the steps again. It wasn’t my imagination.  Started trying other things that I usually couldn’t do…and kept noticing other improvements…..it was easy to drive the car, my reaction time was much improved. The list went on on. Decided to take another drop at bedtime…and actually got a good night’s sleep. I have been using the tincture now since October 9th. Still no side effects,  besides lack of PD symptoms.  If I feel symptoms starting…I just take a couple of drops and in about   15 minutes I don’t notice them anymore.

Ken Alan…a fellow PD patient has been growing favas for a few years. I sent him some of my tincture and he “kitchen tested it”. He wrote back that there was approximately 1 mg levadopa in 2 drops tincture. I have been taking this  small dose 3 to 4 times a day to alleviate my symptoms.

11.Can you provide tincture to other people??

No.  I feel that much research needs to be done on the tincture, and perhaps a better base can be found to draw out even more of the levadopa than brandy.  I plan to experiment in the spring with wine vinegar for tincture. But, I cannot test for levadopa and each batch will be slightly different, because of the soil area in which the favas are grown / the time of year the top is harvested/and the chosen liquid base for the tincture.

I want to make a plea for someone, or perhaps a medical school to take on the fava project that I started. I will help in any way I can to make this valuable way of using favas available to other people with PD who would benefit from it, as I have.

12. Do you find that stress is related to the symptoms of PD??

Absolutely. I have never been a person that got “stressed out”. Now that I have PD symptoms, little things that I would never have noticed before will suddenly cause symptoms to get worse…a dog that won’t stop barking/ cold weather, and not being able to get warm./ a doctors appointment/ driving a car/ even being around someone else who is stressed can upset the balance. A pain or low blood sugar level can also bring on symptoms, emotions that are intense., both good or bad ,can “really upset the apple cart”. Every part of our being is involved , from facial expressions / sleep patterns/ and mobility. Stiffening and panic attacks can come on suddenly because of stress,  No amount of PD meds can bring relief , it seems , until the cause of stress is alleviated.

13. Aside from fava beans, what other therapies help you with symptoms?

I do best on days when I can get out and enjoy the sunshine…PD’ers usually have a shortage of Vit D I have been told. A possitive attitude and outlook on life.

I have learned to do a lot of stretching. A few years ago, I was blessed to meet a wonderful physical therapist who worked with PD patients. One of the most important things he taught me, was that in PD you have to train yourself to be aware of your posture  and your movement. Before PD, your body goes through the motions of life automatically. This radically changes with PD.  We must consciously move our bodies. For example: I was in the physical therapist’s office one day when a man & his wife came in.  The man had PD, and was walking with his shoulders slumped over & shuffling his feet. Bill said,

“I want you to stand up straight, and walk forward, picking up your knees.”

The man did.  I was amazed.  The wife said,

“Why doesn’t he do that at home?”

The answer was, “Because he doesn’t think about it!”

That stirred alot of “thinking in me”.  I was already struggling with neck problems, forward head position and slumped shoulders and slight balance issues.  I was determined to have good posture  and started working on stretches & exercises . It was alot of hard work, but , as time went on, I started to see & feel noticeable improvement. Since then, with PD symptoms showing up…I realize how invaluable all that hard work was.

When I first wake up in the morning..I have to stretch my neck and upper back muscles to their limit to get the “giant” (I call it) off my back. Then, I progress to doorframe stretches to bring my head and shoulders up to proper posture for the day. I enjoy exercise, gardening, dance, kayaking and music.  Life is good, very busy and fulfilling. Now with the fava tincture…my life is so much easier and more fun, too. I enjoy helping others and especially those with PD. One of my main goals in life is to help find ways to make life easier for those I have come to love and appreciate so much.

14. Do you have a website that would help people understand the use of fava beans and how to grow them?

No, but there is a man in Canada, Ken Allan, who has been so much support to me in this adventure with the favas. He also has PD and has grown and used them to supplement his sinemet for several years now. Here is his website:

http://home.cogeco.ca/~allan/

15. Is there a fava bean support group where people can get answers to their questions about growing and using the beans?

No,  not that I am aware of, but it is a great idea.  Could Parkinsons Recovery start an online support group where people could share valuable information about fava beans and their uses and how to grow them?

I am happy to share the little bit of information that we have gleaned over the past 12 months. I pray that many of your listeners will be encouraged to grow their own favas and that we will find people interested in doing valuable research on these amazing fava beans.    May God Bless You   .    Sandra