Can the fava bean tincture be made without alcohol? I get migraines from alcohol and also it is processed in the body as sugar which is contraindicated to Lonnie Herman’s protocol.
What blood test did she say to have before using tinctures from fava beans
I think the tincture can only be made using brandy, so it crosses the blood brain barrier, but if you put amount needed in a coffee cup and pour boiling water over it….the alcohol evaporates leaving the ldopa in the water. ldopa is water soluble.
Blood test is called G6PD.
Do you know of anyone that sells the fava bean tincture? My husband was
recently diagnosed with PD. He is not taking any prescription meds as he is
concerned over the side effects and has heard the longer one is on them the
less effective they are.
I don’t know of anyone who sells the fava bean tincture. It gets harder every year to get enough made for myself. My fall crop….5 lbs of fava beans all died in severe heat and very dry weather. So, being a farmer, we are subject to good conditions and poor. Good crops and possibly no crop. There are companies that sell fava dopamine capsules, but off hand I can’t think of company names. You can buy organic dry fava beans that are sprout able and follow the recipe in the download -able booklet for sprouting the beans to eat, and for making fava sprout balls. Another option is to try mucuna puriens. You can purchase them from many sources. They are also a bean that contain natural ldopa. Eating papaya also helps. Fermented papaya does even more…if you can’t manage to ferment your own…it can be purchased under the brand FPP . It is a dry powder . I hope this helps and I have answered you questions. God Bless and guide you.
If I understand correctly, the research here:
shows that the leaves of fava beans are nearly as potent as the buds. Has anyone tried a leaf fava beans tincture?
Thanks in advance,
I began adding some of the small leaves of fava beans to the fava beans tincture (which uses leavers connected to the top bud ) for a while and didn’t feel the the tincture was as potent and after a couple of batches went back to removing all the leaves from the bud before drying. That is my only experience with trying them. I will eat a few leaves while harvesting tops and beans and they taste much like spinach and I am sure they are very nutritious also.
Hi Aunt bean,
Of course I am a Parkinson’s patient.
I made fava bean tincture from beans but instead of putting them in the dark as I read later. I placed them in a clear jar and on the kitchen counter in the light (shady place) in sunny California.
Is the tincture still good or is the L-Dopa killed with light?
Tinctures always have better shelf life if kept away from light exposure. If you have started to use it and it was working , but losing it’s effect from being in the light awhile…you will know the l-dopa has been diminished. It would not make the tincture harmful, just less effective. You can not say the l-dopa would be killed since it is not a living substance, just an extract form a bean.
Next time do keep the extract inside a dark place while shaking for a month and place in a amber or dark blue bottle in a dark place for storage…or place a clear jar in a paper bag in the dark for storage. Hope this clarifies your question…
My father’s Experience with Aunt Bean’s fava bean tincture
“At first, we (my father and I) want to thank Aunt Bean for having invented such a wonderful natural remedy for people suffering from Parkinson’s disease. Of course we are also sincerely grateful for Dr. Robert Rodgers for his unique research and website that offer so much help and inspiration for those in need.
I prepared Aunt Bean’s fava bean tincture from sprouted fava beans according to the instructions on her blog. I prepared the tincture for my 66-year old father who has been diagnosed with Parkinson’s disease. My father has been going through severe tremor in the right hand, general slowness and stiffness of movements, and a softened voice. At the moment, he has been taking half a teaspoon of the tincture three times a day for one month and this is what he reports:
The most noticeable improvement is in the movements of the body. After taking the tincture, the ordinary daily chores require much less effort. It is easier to drive, play the guitar, practice yoga, cook healthy food, and socialize. The tincture has also improved my mood by reducing any kinds of depression and anxiety. Although the tincture itself does not cure the disease and did not remove my tremors, it helps the whole process of recovery by “helping and supporting you to keep going”. I have noticed that the efficiency of the tincture at least for me is much higher when I strive to maintain a positive mind set and an active and inspiring life.
Because we live in Finland, I used Finnish fava beans for the tincture. I was very careful to follow Aunt Bean’s protocol for tincture preparation as she had described it. Whenever I felt unsure about some step, I asked Aunt Bean for an advice (by email) and she immediately replied me with plenty of information. Before starting the tincture preparation, I made a plan when to do each step. Although the whole process takes about a month, the individual steps are easy, fast, and convenient. The alcohol content in brandy is enough (~40 %) to protect it from microbial contamination. Aunt Bean told me that the tincture is sensitive to light, so I found some brown glass bottles from the pharmacy. If somebody has trouble finding such bottles, I encourage them to ask the pharmacists. They always have such products in store but do not necessarily keep them available all the time. Another way to protect light-sensitive substances is to wrap a regular glass bottle with aluminum foil and store it in the dark.
If somebody would like to try the tincture, but has trouble with finger movements etc. due to progressed condition, I strongly encourage you to ask a family member or a friend to do it for you. It is not difficult, although requires care and attention on the instructions.”
Wishing you all the best,
The fava beans for Parkinson’s have not come up well at all that were planted the end of July and first part of August. I purchased a really poor bag of bulk seeds this year. I am going to go against my usual growing time and try to replant this Sunday. Hopefully we will get more plants that will give us at least one picking of tops before temps hit 26 degrees this year. One year they made it to the second week in December…that would be a blessing this year.
Tomatoes have gone crazy this summer…probably have gotten a bushel from each plant so far and they are still producing. Green beans have done exceptionally well also….but fava “tops” are the most important crop here and we need more to see us thru until the end of May when the spring crop starts it’s harvest time.
“Aunt Bean” feels very well and I hope to go to Rock Steady Boxing Camp next year in Indianapolis so that I am better equipped to help our support group with exercises that target PD symptoms. Our group responded well to adding exercise to our meeting time…a
very necessary thing for all of us.
Summer is coming to a close, but work is not. I received a heavy coverall for cold weather…it was my brother’s, which makes it even more special…hopefully I can take being outside in cold weather this year to create new raised beds for the coming year.
Bean Acres is open to people with PD who want to come learn natural ways to combat their symptoms. The farm has been such a blessing to me, and my prayer is that God will use it to touch many lives in a positive way who also have this horrible disease…
It is not incurable.
God Bless you all
New fava beans kitchen experiment at Bean Acres:
- I sprouted1 cup fava beans for 4 days after a 24 hour soak.
- Peeled / cut out bad spots/ rinsed and mashed the beans very fine (did not steam them)
- Placed 1 Cup mashed sprouts in a jar with 3/4 C brandy
- Labeled and dated and shook this for a month.
- Strained the tincture thru a fine tea strainer mesh and pressed as much liquid as possible out of the mash.
I let this set for a day and then using a clean turkey baster (used only for tinctures) remove the clear liquid and placed it into a clean jar, being careful not to disturb the sediment at the bottom of the jar. I do not discard the sediment , but keep it separate & use it first.
From this amount of sprout mash & brandy I ended up with 1/2 C plus a little of clear tincture (and minus 1/4 C sediment to use first). This tincture is probably low in l-dopa. No one has done a lab test on it to see.
A person has to start with a few drops and experiment to find a good supplemental dose for their own needs. If a person is under doctor’s care and taking PD drugs…much care would need to be taken to not overdose l-dopa. Always a doctor should be consulted and informed about a patient’s desire to try natural forms of l-dopa.
It is so simple for myself to decide how much l-dopa I need because I am not taking PD medications. I just do a finger-tapping test and see if I am needing to take tincture. My right hand is always the same…it is my left hand that is mostly effected. If it taps moderately slow…I take a half dropper full. If very slow…a whole dropper. If the left hand is tapping in time with the right hand…I don’t need any tincture.
If you want to try making and using tincture …it is at your own risk…I am only sharing my experiences with PD and what has helped me. We are all so very different and will not respond the same. I can only hope that what works for me might help some other people also.
God Bless You.